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Cimbri's avatar

So the list of hobbies makes sense given the added context, but I am most puzzled about the rating of ideal jobs. You would think ‘high school principal’ would be up there with ‘sales manager’, and it’s equally interesting that ‘actor’ is the middle of the pack with PTA president and clergyman and still a category above actually being in charge of large groups of people.

I wonder if the focus on sales and acting implies some sort of expectation of deception or manipulation on the part of the leader?

Anyway, I don’t think calling EMS counts. I assume it means helping out with, or managing the response to, an industrial or automotive accident or they like. Based on the *serious* emphasis I think this would even mean death or maiming was involved vs just light injury.

CBA's avatar

I dunno about all that other stuff, but having taught high school should automatically give me a bazillion points.

Vilho Virtanen's avatar

6 to 10 feet per person doesn't mean anything. Did you maybe mean square feet, or the average distance between two people?

In any case the shelter in that picture looks really roomy. For the record where I live we have 0.9 m^2 per person. Barely enough to sit or lie down, with 30 strangers within 3 meters of you.

prosa123's avatar

One odd question is the one about mountain climbing, cave exploring etc. Those are to some degree risky activities. I do not see how being a risk-taker is necessarily a desirable quality in a shelter manager (“Radiation levels outside might be okay, so we can leave.”)

Derek Lyons's avatar

The thought process is probably that if you indulge in high risk activities, you learn to evaluate risk and balance risk v. reward. You learn to stop short of your limits and to avoid (where possible) extreme risks.

Whether that transfers to being an effective shelter leader is an open question.

Paul Christiansen's avatar

I've been in a situation or two where, when in a group of strangers, I've said "I'm a teacher" and everyone else in the group immediately voted me to be in charge. It's nice to know the DCPA agreed.

But honestly, teaching is 99% relational, so managing strangers would be a different beast. I don't even try to manage students I don't know; it won't work. On the other hand, we get really good at making decisions.

Neb's avatar

I was waiting for something about mental health to come up, as it is the 70s. I guess they have other irons in the fire...

Derek Lyons's avatar

It's likely the current zeitgeist, where it's fashionable to hate on CEO's based on an entirely un-representative sample of their ilk. I mean, I'm not saying the dozen or couple dozen don't deserve it... Only that the sample and the sampling methods are very subjective and deeply biased. (Not to mention the survey says "executives" not "CEO". And with good reason - there's many more of the former than of the latter.)

The very visible wheel gets the hate, and you never hear about the 99.99% of the others. Meanwhile, I'd have no problems getting in a shelter with either the current owners or the one set to inherit of the local business my wife works for. All good solid guys. (And the current owners were both motorcycle racers back in their salad days.) The one set to inherit was the sales manager, and is now the GM. Etc... etc...

Though, as always YMMV. I know nothing of your local leadership/managers.

Of course I live in a Navy town with a naval shipyard and a SSBN base just a few miles away... So it's not likely to be an issue I'll ever have to deal with. I won't have to shelter from fallout, I'm likely to *be* fallout.

What I find interesting about the survey though is the question about military experience. There's an unspoken assumption that men with combat/senior leadership experience are common enough that it's worth asking after them in a high level/generalized survey.

Paul Christiansen's avatar

World War II was only 30 years before. Any 20ish sergeant in "the Big One" would have been in his 50s in the 70s... and there were plenty of those.

Cimbri's avatar

I think he means most corporate management types, of which I too would be doubtful of their ability to actually lead others, let alone in a crisis.